Meetings/2008-11-12

= Meeting 2008-11-12 =

Details

 * When: Wednesday 12th November 2008 from 1900 GMT
 * Where: #okfn irc channel on oftc.net (connect via Mibbit)

Agenda

 * Updates from workshops
 * Editors/curators for CKAN
 * Open Milton
 * Planning for OKCon (?)

IRC Log
#!irc 19:10:17 	hi 19:11:00 	hi rgrp 19:12:48 	hi jwyg 19:12:54 	btw about the paper to send to that guy 19:15:03 	yup! 19:15:12 	what do you think? 19:15:51 *	__t (~t@echelon.ext.c-base.org) has joined #okfn 19:16:13 	one mo 19:17:17 	sure 19:17:24 	hey __t! 19:20:15 	hi __t 19:27:11 <__t>	hi 19:31:12 	__t is an unusual nick :) 19:31:25 	(or maybe not, i'm not always sure with these things) 19:36:38 	rgrp: you were saying about the paper? 19:37:21 	__t: do you think you'll be able to make it to open everything berlin? :-) 19:38:27 	__t: also - do you know anyone from chaos computer congress? 19:43:47 *	ipe (~chatzilla@78.145.20.113) has joined #okfn 19:45:35 	Evening 19:46:25 	rgrp: just caught your email re: open shakespeare. 19:49:07 	hi ipe 19:49:37 	hi. been thinking about structure in texts as well 19:50:50 	great, that is really the next thing we want to focus on 19:51:38 	An implementation of TEI would be great as a start 19:53:05 	hi ipe 19:53:15 	hi jwyg 19:54:37 	sorry - we were just on the phone :-) 19:54:48 	we should 19:54:50 	how is everything? 19:54:50 	(sorry) 19:55:00 	should we start with milton or shakespeare? 19:55:13 	i know there is already the semi-marked up version of shakespeare (the Moby version) 19:55:19 	can we find a version of milton somewhere? 19:57:42 	I found some non-commercial in the Oxford Text Archive. 19:58:25 	:( 19:58:57 	Sorry, haven't found anything yet :( 19:59:14 	hence my suggestions about possibly rolling a basic version of our own 19:59:48 	just found this: http://bistro.northwestern.edu/mmueller/ariadne/teixintro/index.htm 19:59:55 	gentle intro to TEI 20:00:40 	too bad about the commercial restriction -- though I guess we could make a temporary exception ... 20:01:18 	I've got the Areopagitica downloaded somewhere. 20:01:37 	sorry - just to recap, what exactly are we looking for? a complete works of milton thats open? 20:01:42 	Might at least give us a start with doing stuff with TEI. 20:01:47 	Yes. in TEI format 20:02:05 	The TEI website has this tool page: http://www.tei-c.org/wiki/index.php/Category:Tools 20:04:34 	what will TEI allow us to do? 20:04:42 	convert easily to other formats? 20:05:45 	Structure the data - such as who is speaking? 20:06:24 	okay, and how close is say the moby shakespeare to what we need to end up with 20:07:29 	I believe it follows the TEI DTD 20:07:43 	Its certainly the same idea 20:08:39 	so it should be pretty easy to convert that 20:08:49 	Mmm hmmm 20:08:53 	great :) that means we could have a nicely formatted version pretty quickly 20:09:58 	TEI was intended to be used as a set of building blocks for creating a schema suitable for a particular project (from tei-c website) 20:10:26 	Yes and to also look at extending stuff for other purposes 20:11:09 	this sounds wonderful 20:11:21 	Customisation website here: http://www.tei-c.org/Guidelines/Customization/odds.xml 20:11:24 	what's annoying is all the many milton editions out there all have (c) symbols on them ... 20:11:56 	Indeed. This would be good to show what you can do to poetry and prose in open fashion... 20:12:00 	:) 20:14:31 	ok, i need to head off. 20:14:40 	ipe: we should chat to finalize plans for next week 20:14:45 	will be really good to see you 20:15:06 	Cool. Likewise. I need to be in Ely for around 2pm 20:15:17 	ok 20:15:19 	Are you on Panton street? 20:15:21 	yes 20:15:22 	37 20:15:40 	let's chat about this though, offline :) 20:16:03 	Cool. 20:16:19 	"Talk" soon? 20:16:42 	yes 20:16:47 	good to speak 20:16:56 	o&o 20:17:00 	bye rgrp! 20:17:05 	indeed. bye 20:17:33 	perhaps I should make tracks as well jwyg... 20:17:41 	ipe: haven't had a chance to look at things we scribbled down the other night.. 20:17:44 	after OE... 20:17:48 	one thing though.. 20:17:56 	ok 20:17:59 	Cameron Neylon is interested in the thing you're doing at STFC 20:18:15 	and is certainly planning on coming.. 20:18:23 	Cool. Be good to see him. I'll mail him tomorrow 20:18:26 	shall I cc you both in an email? 20:18:43 	If I remember (only just got back to hte office). Sure 20:18:54 	great. 20:19:02 	I'm recovering from conferences now. 20:19:07 	i'll do it now! 20:19:11 	me too :-) 20:19:14 	Excellent 20:19:37 	It would've been nive for them to be in similar areas as well (calendaring & Sem Web) 20:20:31 	Anyhow. Talk soon? I need to do some reading for the event 20:20:57 	great! 20:21:03 	yep - speak soon! 20:21:34 	Have a good evening. 20:21:39 *	ipe (~chatzilla@78.145.20.113) has left #okfn 20:52:18 *	rgrp has quit (Quit: leaving)