Meetings/2008-09-17

= Meeting 2008-09-17 =

Details

 * When: Wednesday 17th September 2008 from 1830 BST (1730 GMT)
 * Where: #okfn irc channel on oftc.net (connect via Mibbit)

Agenda
Please feel free to add anything you'd like to discuss to the agenda...


 * Jonathan: updates on autumn events + virtual workshops
 * CKAN
 * Cofundos for open knowledge?

Participants

 * Jonathan Gray
 * Iain Emsley
 * Rufus Pollock

IRC Log
(Time in CEST)

#!irc 19:27:06 	hey ipe! 19:27:21 	hi. thought i'd be early for once! 19:28:01 	can't stay long though. lots to do. 19:28:20 	jwyg: how's things? 19:32:31 	ipe: great! berlin is really nice. 19:32:47 	is anyone else here? 19:32:56 	mikechelen: are you here, or idling? 19:33:50 	ipe: perhaps we could talk about a digital humanities workshop? 19:34:02 	jwyg: lets 19:34:24 	jwyg: have we got a place to hold it? 19:34:39 	not yet 19:34:50 	hang on - just sending an email.. 19:37:45 	okay 19:39:11 *	rgrp (~rgrp@cpc3-cmbg6-0-0-cust206.cmbg.cable.ntl.com) has joined #okfn 19:39:16 	hi all 19:39:24 	rgrp: hi 19:39:27 	sorry i'm a bit late 19:39:43 	No worries. 19:40:12 	An aside but perhaps for delection, I've been working on a Milton timeline 19:40:15 	http://www.austgate.co.uk/development/nobel.htm 19:41:08 	It still needs work but worth tweaking it for Milton package but with a standard structure for shakespeare? 19:41:40 	hi rgrp 19:41:43 	:-) 19:42:18 	jwyg: Sorry, I know I'm skipping about.I'll stop :) 19:42:51 	ipe: not at all! 19:42:58 	just finishing an email.. 19:44:29 	alright - full attention! 19:44:49 	Digital Humanities? 19:45:27 	ipe: yes i saw that 19:45:53 	to be honest rather than do a simile one why not generate one using microfacts ...? 19:46:25 	Could do. Just fancied playing with Simile :) 19:46:31 	jwyg: have you visited the cc office in berlin yet? :) 19:47:12 	mlinksva: no - i've yet to catch up with Michelle! 19:47:34 	mlinksva: definitely plan to do so soon. I should ping her again... 19:48:11 	ipe: regarding digital humanities workshop, I haven't had much bandwidth to look into this yet... 19:48:38 	a suggestion... 19:49:00 	jwyg: all ears 19:49:05 	perhaps we could focus on getting the word out about open shakespeare/milton/literature first.. 19:49:22 	and then have a hackathon for people interested in these and other related things... 19:49:27 	i.e. a virtual event... 19:49:28 	I think that would be a great idea 19:49:41 	and then leave a physical event until 2009 perhaps? 19:50:01 	i've got a little too much on at the moment to do this properly i think.. 19:50:12 	Good idea. I think we all have. 19:50:36 	i guess it would be better if our attention was focused on, e.g. building open lit and getting a good launch for open milton 19:50:45 	when is the anniversary again? 19:50:54 	Do you need a hand on words towards a general email for targetting lists? 19:50:59 	December 9th 19:51:01 	ok 19:51:13 	i'm sort of in the middle of doing that :-) 19:51:33 	Sorry. 19:51:52 	i'm going to put it here.. 19:51:56 	perhaps we could do it now? 19:51:58 	http://okfn.org/wiki/openliterature 19:52:22 	i was going to adapt some of the material on the shakespeare site... 19:52:42 	ipe: btw milton stuff on austgate looks great! 19:53:11 	Thanks. I'll take Rufus's suggestion and use microfacts for any further development 19:53:39 	ipe: that sounds great! 19:54:11 	jwyg: Re-use and re-mix ;) 19:55:34 	Blurb? 19:56:44 	alright i've just modded the existing blurb.. 19:56:44 	http://okfn.org/wiki/openliterature 19:56:59 	i wonder what else is most important to say.. 19:57:02 	can i normalize that wiki name? 19:57:07 	i guess it depends who we're writing to :-) 19:57:17 	rgrp: what do you mean? 19:57:28 	rgrp: as in OpenLiterature? 19:58:04 	rgrp: whatever you think is best! 19:58:46 	jwyg: need to mention the website name 19:59:07 	just added :-) 19:59:44 	yes, but i guess it doesn't matter (it is the least of the issues with the wiki's organization ...) 19:59:47 	;) 20:00:20 	jwyg: do we need to mention that we're the OKF? 20:00:35 	i guess in the first instance the main people we will be contacting include: jismail lists, shakespeare lists (e.g. shaksper)...) 20:00:42 	ipe: yep.. 20:01:49 	Not many public JISCmail lists on Shakespeare. Looks like a good Milton one though 20:03:31 	moved to http://okfn.org/wiki/OpenLiterature 20:03:38 	ipe: great! 20:04:00 	+ added reference to okf in 1st par 20:04:35 	i guess by posting we are mainly looking to find people interested in getting involved in some capacity.. 20:04:41 	mainly users + developers? 20:05:12 	re: users, looking at academics, lecturers, school teachers? 20:05:48 	re: developers: people interested in f/oss, people who use python, ...? 20:06:17 	do we want a single generic email for these two groups, or 2 basic templates? 20:06:24 	i suggest we try and stick to one :-) 20:06:38 	One email that we tailor? 20:06:41 	nods 20:07:13 	jwyg: blurb looks good but would you mind me making some changes? 20:07:34 	rgrp: of course not! i just put it up so we've got something to tinker with! 20:10:15 	re: users i guess it would be good to have more people using + also more people giving feedback? 20:10:37 	ipe: i guess this links with some of the stuff we've talked about re: feature wish lists etc. 20:10:50 	ipe: what would X group find most useful, etc.? 20:11:02 	jwyg: true. my thoughts exactly 20:11:39 	If we can at least start with getting a user base set up and see what happens... 20:11:43 	nods 20:11:59 	also - must contact OLPC 20:12:10 	esp re: summer of content.. 20:12:27 	SJ was keen on open lit stuff and mentioned shipping with laptops.. 20:12:44 	rgrp: we were going to announce a new release, is that ready to happen now? 20:12:55 	btw do we have somewhere to show the Milton package off? 20:12:56 	rgrp: if so, shall i blog it? 20:14:34 	jwyg: yes, i think we are pretty much ready to go 20:14:44 	we should be able to use the blurb for this ... 20:15:03 	use blurb in blog? 20:16:33 	ipe: not sure re: milton package... 20:16:52 	ipe: are you free next wednesday? 20:17:05 	I think so 20:17:10 	Why? 20:17:19 	ipe: if so perhaps we could set aside a bit of time to do another little hackathon on all this.. 20:17:33 	e.g. look into finding images 20:17:37 	jwyg: indeed 20:17:47 	and think about the contents list of the package.. 20:18:07 	(and look properly at where we are wrt milton launch..) 20:18:20 	definitely 20:19:17 	2 more things to mention on blurb email: ways to get involved (user/developer) + how to get involved.. 20:19:33 	rgrp: are you currently editing? 20:19:39 	just found an audio-visual list on shakespeare on JISCmail. Worth mailing about Shakespeare? 20:19:45 	jwyg: yes 20:19:56 	cool 20:20:25 	ipe: definitely! 20:21:04 	ipe: we should add a 'to contact' section as well as 'contacted' to OpenLit.. 20:21:39 	jwyg: Indeed we should. Surprised not more public lists on JISCmail though. 20:23:15 	should definitely contact Jeremy Hylton, cf. http://www.python.org/~jeremy/ and http://shakespeare.mit.edu/ 20:23:34 	wikipedia lists... 20:23:50 	add a link to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Shakespeare 20:25:49 	contact editor or RSC resources list http://www.rsc.org.uk/content/3935.aspx 20:25:53 	*of 20:26:23 	Contact the Globe? I believe they have an education section 20:27:15 	nods 20:27:18 	great! 20:27:30 	SJ + OLPC as noted 20:27:47 	blurb refactor is done 20:28:16 	someone i know mentioned a contact with the Globe ... 20:29:30 	Looks good 20:30:21 	rgrp: i know a couple of people who work there.. 20:30:25 	also.. http://www.shakespeare.org.uk/content/view/425/436/ 20:31:54 	looks great! 20:32:06 	add them all to a list on the page! :) 20:32:20 	is it alright if i edit to update contacts section? 20:33:20 	editing now.. 20:34:50 	also definitely http://shakespeare.palomar.edu/ 20:35:30 	see esp. section on "Great introductions to various editions of the Works of Shakespeare" 20:36:19 	I need to make tracks 20:36:37 	ipe: nods 20:36:48 	ipe: how is everything in oxford? 20:36:54 	:-) 20:37:01 	jwyg: Busy, busy :) 20:37:31 	jwyg: I'll read the meeting notes tomorrow and start on my bits if this text is settled. 20:37:42 	ipe: great! 20:37:52 	ipe: do you use any instant messaging apps? 20:37:56 *	rgrp_ (~rgrp@cpc3-cmbg6-0-0-cust206.cmbg.cable.ntl.com) has joined #okfn 20:37:57 	See you all soon and certainly next Wed 20:38:22 	Not yet. Should be able to during the day through the firewall 20:38:42 	Contact me off list with details and I'll try in the next few days? 20:38:44 	ipe: i've started using some to keep in touch with people since i've moved to berlin.. 20:38:51 	ipe: great! :-) 20:39:08 	take care, and nice to talk! 20:39:10 	Anyhow, must go. I need to eat 20:39:29 	ipe: i'll be in touch!