Meetings/2007-11

= OKFN Monthly Meeting: 2007-11 =

Where and When

 * When: Wednesday 2007-11-13 at 1800 GMT
 * Where: #okfn irc channel on oftc.net

Agenda

 * OKCon 2008
 * PB Works / PD Burn linkup with Open Library
 * Contacting more projects about open definition
 * sysadmin type stuff
 * openeconomics.net update
 * datapkg update

Actions from Last Meeting

 * DONE rgrp to resolve room liasing with saul as necessary
 * ? jwyg: to liase with saul re. funding
 * DONE rgrp: to sort venue/date asap
 * ? jwyg: to talk with saul about sponsorship opportunities
 * DONE jwyg: write up wiki suggestions into draft announce for discuss list
 * DONE/? all: look at okcon2008 wiki page and start adding proposals. take ownerships of tracks and think who one can invite
 * DONE jywg: draft announce
 * N/A all: mail rgrp with suggestions for advisory council for opendefinition.org
 * DONE rgrp: start inviting people for advisory council for opendefinition.org

IRC Log
#irc

19:03 ok we better start the session now 19:05 <@jwyg> ok 19:07 <@jwyg> just going to order a coffee (its still 11am over here and very sunny!) 19:08 ok we better start up 19:08 saul: are you around 19:08 <@jwyg> here 19:12 ok i'll call saul 19:16 ok saul will be here in 5 19:16 jwyg: in the meantime shall we take a very fast look at planning for you ... 19:17 btw i've just responded to your OKCon draft which i thought was *really* good 19:17 i think we are basically there and should look to send this out asap 19:17 hello 19:17 <@jwyg> well.. there is more in it than there was last time! 19:17 <@jwyg> hi saul! 19:17 hi 19:18 warning: I am very tired and overloaded and probably not going to be any use at all :( 19:18 as you can probably both tell from my sluggishness 19:18 heh 11am eh 19:18 sorry to hear that man 19:18 yeah 19:18 11am? 19:18 too many things going on 19:18 <@jwyg> oh no! 19:18 so 19:18 <@jwyg> poor you 19:19 I'm just a girl that can't say no 19:19 <@jwyg> uh oh 19:19 that is very true -- i've never know you not overloaded 19:19 :) 19:19 peace and brotherly love ... 19:19 <@jwyg> :-) 19:20 <@jwyg> hmm... 19:20 ok well let's get down to it 19:20 maybe we will schedule another meeting in hear future to finalize okcon stuff 19:20 <@jwyg> saul - feel free to outsource any okf-related stuff to me! 19:20 agenda is on: http://okfn.org/wiki/meetings/2007-11 19:20 ok 19:20 <@jwyg> (if there's anything that i can do) 19:21 pls take a quick look 19:21 <@jwyg> nod 19:21 basically most actions from last time have got done hurrah 19:21 saul: ? 19:21 oh god 19:22 ? 19:22 <@jwyg> are you alright saul? 19:22 <@jwyg> it sounds like the abyss is staring back.. 19:23 nevermind 19:23 just a panic call from someone about a site I'm working on being down 19:23 last thing I needed really 19:23 which site? 19:23 sorry 19:23 let's go on 19:23 <@jwyg> sorry to hear 19:23 Liz has offered to talk at okcon 19:23 that's great 19:23 she is an authority on visualisation 19:24 <@jwyg> (sorry: Liz who?) 19:24 Liz Turner 19:24 <@jwyg> that's great! 19:24 i also sent some suggestions to okfn-coord 19:24 cool 19:25 <@jwyg> great 19:25 she also offered to put us in touch with someone she thinks would be good on similar topics 19:25 <@jwyg> I've just written to Erik Duval http://www.cs.kuleuven.be/~erikd/ 19:25 given absence of jo I propose that we take invite question onto okfn-coord (that is also non-public since it involves decision about invites etc) 19:25 I'll mine her for htat information tomorrow 19:25 <@jwyg> great 19:25 main question when getting people outside of UK will be funds! 19:26 yes 19:26 <@jwyg> true 19:26 saul/jwyg: i know you were going to hook up on the fundraising front 19:26 has anything come of that 19:26 I meant to do something on that issue - but have failed miserably so far 19:26 don't worry 19:26 but if you had some ideas? 19:26 <@jwyg> saul, if you throw some names at me i can look into it 19:26 I think I did... 19:26 mentioned embasseys, institutes... did you get that mail jwyg ? 19:26 <@jwyg> uh oh... 19:26 mail hole? 19:27 <@jwyg> hang on.. 19:28 ok: this sounds like something to resolve outside the meeting 19:28 <@jwyg> No you're right I did get that mail. 19:28 ok 19:29 <@jwyg> I was wondering about core funding (for venue etc.) 19:29 I also spoke to node london folk about collaborating on a funding bid 19:29 to do a publication and fly speakers over 19:29 there were positive reactions 19:29 <@jwyg> great 19:29 funding for venue can come from OKF -- we have sufficient money to pay for that plus we should recoup post facto from tickets 19:29 <@jwyg> great. 19:29 but it required a great deal of proactive energy from me 19:29 of course if we can get funding for that fine but probably easier to raise funds for flying in speakers 19:29 so nothing's happened on that front for a while 19:29 <@jwyg> ok. 19:30 saul: anything you can do on that front is much appreciated but don't kill yourself 19:30 :) 19:30 frankly: if we do it on a shoe-string we do it on a shoe-string ... 19:30 <@jwyg> nods 19:30 ok - it might still turn into something 19:31 again i think on the funding side of thing it is probably a good thing to on okfn-coord (as this sort of thing can't always be public ...) 19:31 <@jwyg> ok. 19:31 ok 19:31 i've got some ideas of my own 19:31 the main thing right now is to finalize the Announce / CFP ... 19:31 For CFP -- do we just let anyone sign up or do we ask them to email and we then select? 19:32 <@jwyg> i think we should select 19:32 last year we just let people sign up ... 19:32 that way people just post on the wiki -- if we really get overload welll ... 19:32 <@jwyg> advantage of select is that you have a basic mechanism in place for overloading... 19:33 <@jwyg> perhaps unnecessary 19:33 sure 19:33 but how likely are we to get overloaded -- and can always deal with that by changing slot / time available 19:33 <@jwyg> thats true. 19:34 perhaps we can ask people to simply list proposals / email us and we will put up timetable later ... 19:34 in terms of actions before we forget: 19:34 action: saul and jwyg: liase further and send post to okfn-coord re fundraising 19:34 ok 19:35 <@jwyg> ok 19:35 action: all: finalize okcon announce in next *couple* of days so we can send by start of next week 19:35 action: all: respond to thread on okfn-coord about speaker slots/invites (we need to sort that out asap) 19:36 <@jwyg> nods 19:36 does that sound about right? 19:36 <@jwyg> sounds great to me. 19:36 saul: ? 19:36 yep 19:37 I'll be able to do that tomorrow 19:37 <@jwyg> only thing is - what if speaker slots end up significantly different from projected panels, does this matter? 19:37 in terms of CFP perhaps we can put that on okfn-discuss 19:37 yep 19:37 jwyg: a) it won't matter much b) i don't think we will (panels are pretty broad) 19:37 <@jwyg> true 19:38 <@jwyg> ok 19:38 ok i think that closes out okcon 19:38 cool 19:38 <@jwyg> onto pdb/ol? 19:38 the real think i'd emphasize here is that we should move quickly now (there's not much to do) 19:39 and that way everything will be moving in good time ... 19:39 <@jwyg> great 19:39 ok 19:40 moving on ... 19:41 on the updates i feel it might be better to post to okfn-discuss 19:41 what do people think ... 19:42 agree 19:42 <@jwyg> nods 19:42 <@jwyg> what is the latest with OL? 19:43 latest is stuff on pdb-discuss i.e. we are now in proper contact, i'm on ol-discuss as is anyone else who is interested 19:43 it would be good to talk more with them about open data buttons and licenses 19:43 i'll forward my recent thread (which was off-list) to you ... 19:44 <@jwyg> ok great. 19:44 ok i think everyone is a bit out of it (at least i am) -- being on irc is exhausting ...! 19:45 <@jwyg> ok. 19:45 <@jwyg> i've got plenty to do! 19:45 shall we close this out -- i know it hasn't been as thorough as usual but perhaps we can reschedule a short meeting for near future ... 19:45 i might try to hang out here on irc more often too ... 19:45 <@jwyg> i will too. 19:45 you can always just leave the window open and see who comes along ... 19:46 <@jwyg> rgrp: what is rgrp lurker? 19:46 that's an irc client i have on another client that is permanently connected (and which i sometimes use if i have problems getting on directly due to port blocking) 19:47 ok are we happy to close 'official' meeting? 19:47 <@jwyg> sure 19:47 <@jwyg> i hope everything smooths out for you saul! 19:47 thanks :) 19:47 I hope it will soon. 19:48 <@jwyg> i'll go back and look at that e-mail and follow up some of the travel fund links. 19:48 ok - l8rs, sorry for being so ****ing distracted and useless 19:48 <@jwyg> not at all. 19:48 -!- saul [~saul@81-5-139-4.dsl.eclipse.net.uk] has left #okfn [] 19:48 <@jwyg> *waves* 19:48 thanks for coming jwyg and let's keep moving forward plenty to do ....