Working Groups/euopendata/3

= Third EU Open Data Call =
 * When: 2010-02-09 at 1600 GMT, 5pm CET, 6pm (in Finland), *strict limit to one hour*
 * Where: Skype and Etherpad
 * Chair: Antti (at Skype antti.poikola)

Organizing the calls

 * Next call: 2010-03-09 at 1700 GMT, 6pm CET 7pm (in Finland), *strict limit to one hour*
 * Next call chair: http://wiki.okfn.org/wg/guide#WorkingGroupCoordinator

Participants this time

 * Ton Zylstra (Netherlands)
 * Rufus Pollock (UK)
 * Jonathan Gray (UK)
 * Antti Poikola (Finland)
 * Michael Hausenblas (Ireland)
 * Daniel Dietrich (Germany)
 * Andy Langegger (Austria)

See the introductions of the participants

Agenda

 * General news/updates Please update the introduction part from your behalf
 * New members
 * Go over last meeting's action items
 * Legal and policy toolkits? (Dossier of open gov data initiatives across Europe, EU PSI directive implementation, relevant national laws, etc.)

1. General news/updates
See (and update) the introductions at: http://wiki.okfn.org/wg/euopendata/Introductions

2. New members introductions

 * Most of the new people added to the email-list are interested in semantic web and the EU FP7 project
 * Andy - from Vienna with next semantic meetup focusing on open government data
 * See http://wiki.okfn.org/wg/euopendata/Introductions
 * Open Gov Data in Austria: http://gov.opendata.at (50% in German)
 * Jonathan asks if Austria is willing to use CKAN for their data catalog?
 * there is some: http://www.ckan.net/tag/read/country-austria (don't know the contributors)
 * sure we would, for the future we would be interested in Linked Data based systems
 * Michael Hausenblas, DERI Galway
 * Linking data research centre (scovo developer)
 * ICT-2010Every two years the Europen Comission gathers together a meeting to discuss ideas for the next rounds.

3. Working Group on EU Open Data

 * Working methods, purpose and projects http://wiki.okfn.org/wg/euopendata
 * It's good to have the routine calls anyways even if there are not allways everybody present (maybe one hor later?)
 * We can copy good practices from w3c -group, but let's keep focused in the policy making and community building (supported by technology)
 * It's good to know that we can reconnect if one misses one call
 * It's possible

4. Go over last meeting's action items

 * 1) Representative from Norway - done
 * 2) CKAN and opengov-catalog review
 * 3) * Rufus P's comments: http://lists.okfn.org/pipermail/okfn-help/2010-January/000549.html
 * 4) * Catalog workshop on thursday http://apoikola.wordpress.com/2010/01/23/open-government-data-catalogs/
 * 5) * Digitaliser.dk is not really a data catalog, just a list of the first batch of sources they came across, but Danish gov has plans to build a proper catalog, Ton has mentioned CKAN as one possibility
 * 6) * Federated search is one thing
 * 7) * Other is pushing and pulling the data between different instances, so that the data "spreads"
 * 8) * Also connecting data catalogs with other platform to CKAN - ATOM and data patching
 * 9) * Using opengov as a frontend and having the versioning done in CKAN
 * 10) * Other catalog platforms like Microsoft
 * 11) ** OGDI: this was mentioned to us by Canadian people (ca.ckan.net) sort of Appstore for data sets (codename Dallas) See also end of this document for more on the MS angle.
 * 12) ** http://www.microsoft.com/industry/government/opengovdata/
 * 13) ** Sunlight Foundation has National data catalog
 * 14) ** http://nationaldatacatalog.com/
 * 15) OKFN Project Opengovernmentdata.org
 * 16) * http://opengovernmentdata.org/form/
 * 17) * As a participant, can I get to know the results of the questionnaire?
 * 18) Open Knowledge Conference (OKCon) -- 24th April 2010: http://www.okfn.org/okcon/
 * 19) * One day workshop about the things we are talking of... 22th (informal workshop) or 23rd (evening reception) of April?
 * 20) Apps 4 Democracy
 * 21) * In Germany a hackday and apps for democracy - in Finland Apps for democracy
 * 22) * 4.2. 2010 Skype Daniel Dietrich- Antti Poikola http://dataopas.etherpad.com/64
 * 23) * Decided to start streamlining the European Apps-contests (discussing the rules, prices, focus etc.) so that we save work in organizing the competitions and that  they are more or less comparable wich makes it possible to have European  wide contest maybe next year. It would be great to have also  participants from different European countries and to get the participants to use data also over borders.
 * 24) * So far Daniel have set up a wiki (still empty) in http://www.apps4democracy.eu, and Annti set up a posterous blog http://apps4democracy.posterous.com
 * 25) * Possibility of support from Legal Aspects of Public Sector Information (LAPSI) - EU funded project (no website yet).
 * 26) * Who else is planning to have this kind of contests? France? Netherlands had allready few and Denmark just finnished Dutch: http://datzouhandigzijn.nl (Min Interior) and Min Edu did their own. Denmark, 'Offentlige Data i Spil / ODIS', digitaliser.dk
 * 27) * Eventually it would be nice to follow what happened after the competition
 * 28) * For small countries it is important to have partcipants from other countries as well
 * 29) * Connecting things makes sense
 * 30) One European place for Open data stories http://ourdata.eu/
 * 31) * Ton hasn't been in touch yet with James on how to go about ourdata.eu. Andy from Austria has added some info in it since the last call. But it is in need of some love and attention. Ton would like it to be a place where open data stories are collected from around the EU. Daniel likes the site and is willing to contribute.
 * 32) * http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/private/euopendata/2010-February/000041.html
 * 33) * http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/private/euopendata/2010-February/000051.html
 * 34) * In future collect group of people to make the site "more beutiful"
 * 35) * Discussion... what we would like to see on the site?
 * 36) National ePSI contacts
 * 37) * Please contact your national eRSI Contact Person here
 * 38) * Petteri Huvio (Finland) -Jogi hasn't contacted yet
 * 39) * Peter Hecker (Germany) - Daniel hasn't contacted yet

5. Legal and policy toolkits?
This was leftover from last times agenda (Dossier of open gov data initiatives across Europe, EU PSI directive implementation, relevant national laws, etc.) Isn't this very well covered at http://epsiplatform.eu ? Wouldn't that mean the toolkit is a current list to the relevant pages on that site?

Action Items

 * 1) Start preparing for the ICT-2010
 * 2) Collect list of passed Apps competitions in the Apps4Democracy wiki
 * 3) James and Ton will speak in the Dutch semantic web meetup and feed the results back to this group
 * 4) Ton will facilitate e-mail discussion "what we would like to see?" on the http://ourdata.eu site